In posting the previous Dialogue from Xtul, I speculated that Robert De Grimston was questioning his wife, Mary-Ann, the Oracle of The Process, while she was in a light trance. A second possibility is that these dialogues were produced by what we called subliminal communication.

The state of mind induced by being a core member of The Process was a remarkably calm one, that opened us to a lot of energy that would conventionally have been blocked because of tensions and personal conflict. A side-effect of this was that were more aware of the preconscious self than the average person. This opened up a psychically (or telepathically) heightened state of mind, in which a lot of information normally blocked by the conscious mind became available.

From this constant condition developed the practice of subliminal contact. Essentially, it required one to be very still mentally, focused and in the present, or as we termed it, in time. In this state, by silently stating a question clearly, having told oneself first who or what was being questioned, it was then possible to await an answer in the mind.

I recall one training session of this with Aaron’s dog, Lucifer, who was asked a series of questions. Three of us came back with what we thought were absurdly overdone answers, all sounding somewhat like Stephen Hawking on mescaline. The coincidence, at total variance with what we got from other dogs in the chapter, broke us up completely. Lucifer the dog was clearly a very high-level canine, we agreed between giggles.

Later, I was able to obtain valid, short-term predictive information by this same technique, particularly as I prepared myself to leave The Process and needed guidance I couldn’t ask of the senior membership. We held to a platonic or hermetic notion that all things had their source in the divine, and thus had some degree of consciousness. It was possible to question a tree, each other, or even an abstract concept like freedom or normality.

I mention all this to indicate the other possibility for the source of the Xtul Dialogues: namely, that Robert was in fact questioning a higher level of himself, and noting the answers. Such a dialogue with a concept was published in 1967 in the magazine Process Three, entitled “Robert De Grimston Questions the Concept of Normality”, in which he asked how the idea of normality constricts our understanding of our own scope and spirituality.

I’ve chosen Dialogue Five here, because it is more general than some of the others, and easier to comprehend without intimate knowledge of Processean history and attitudes. It may date from November or December 1966, as some Processeans were getting ready to return to London, and the initial dramatic phase of spiritual formulation and opening was winding down in preparation for The Process’ mission to what it called “the world of men.”

Two terms used here should be clarified, the first being ‘anachronism.’ In normal usage, it means something that has outlived its useful life. But because of the special understanding of in-timeness, and the idea that to be caught up in the mind was to draw oneself out of the flow of time (which was understood to be the unfolding ‘Process’ of GOD our name referred to), in Processean usage it came to refer to anything that was inappropriate or ineffective in any way. Thus, to be ‘human’ - identified with compromise or social convention, locked into repression, or complete blindness to spiritual consciousness - was to be an anachronism.

The second term, borrowed from scientology but redefined slightly, is ‘intention’. This does not refer to an idea of what one is about to do, but to the energy applied to an act. To act with intention is to do it determinedly, steadily, and without conflict. The corollary to this was ‘counter-intention,’ an unconscious or largely unconscious desire or will not to do the precise thing we consciously believe we want to do. “Yes, I want to spend today cleaning the basement,” is an intention. The counter-intention is not hard to guess.

Xtul Dialogue V

1. How can we maintain the Unity of Xtul?

By solidification of the purpose.

2. What does that mean?

It means putting into effect the information I have given you.

Purpose, by the way, is not something that you hope or intend to achieve in the future, if and when, but something you are doing here and now. At present you have no purpose because what you are doing is trying to strike a compromise between maintaining the physical and aspiring to the spiritual. Aspiration is not purpose; it is a part of unconscious motivation that negates purpose.*

Solidify your purpose by action along the lines of separation of the physical and spiritual. Maintain the physical with responsibility. Responsibility belongs to the physical, so give it to the physical. Allow GOD to look after the spiritual. Impose no must, ought or should on that level. The spiritual belongs to GOD; give it to GOD.

By these means you maintain the Unity of Xtul.

3.What don’t we know about physical responsibility?

Nothing. You have demanded it, and been given it together with all the knowledge that goes with it. The end product of it is peace, love, relaxation, harmony, stimulation, satisfaction, and well-being on a physical, mental and emotional level. Achieve that as a group, and you are in a state of fulfilment of physical responsibility.

Then and only then will you rise above it and cease to care on a physical level. When this happens you have achieved the threshold of spirituality. At present you are reaching for the stars with your feet firmly buried in the earth.

Be aware of the stars, accept and validate any information given you from above or about the stars. But reach? No. Aspire? No. That, in your present state is an anachronism.

4. Why an anachronism?

Because the reach is compulsive, and does not stem from pure consciousness.

4. Can you clarify the difference between love as it is in the context of the new code and our parody of it?

Love is the unremitting flow of power and information from one pole to another, and the return of validation. It demands nothing. It is not something that one person feels for another, or on person gives to another. It is the ACTION of a two way flow of energy, not simply a one way intention or hope of contact.

Love is inherent in something that is happening here and now, not in something that might happen in the future.

A further major difference between love and the human parody of love lies in the concept of caring. The parody is based on compulsive care, feelings of intensified responsibility and strong demands on self. Love itself requires no caring, which is the product of unconscious conflict only, but consists of the realisation of pure intention from two separate existences to allow a harmonious mutual flow of cosmic energy in various complimentary (sic) forms.

6. What do you mean by complimentary forms?

For example: validation is complimentary to power and information. That is how the two are exchangeable.

7. Are there other forms?

Hundreds, but don’t concern yourself with them at present. The concepts are hard to interpret as they are not human concepts. Besides, information about them is at present unnecessary.

8. What is the initial energy given by GOD, which you referred to earlier?

A form of cosmic energy. A part of GOD that He separates from Himself, and then inverts in order to maintain its separateness.

In absolute terms the energy is not strictly GIVEN, it simply IS the creation and the creation IS the energy.

The creation is activated in terms of its purpose by the fact of its separation and inversion. It is active energy and with the quality of consciousness. On the other hand you could say it is consciousness with the quality of active energy.

This interchangeability leads to the confusion of whether a being is his consciousness or his unconsciousness. In his original created state he contains pure consciousness and cosmic energy. In his fallen state his consciousness is primarily filled with lies, distortions, inversions and ignorance, and his cosmic energy is used to motivate the conflict of the unconscious.

This is why we speak of the unconscious being the seat of power. The answer is that the being as he basically is, is the tiny spark of awareness remaining in his consciousness. However he has so completely identified himself and given himself over to the unconscious conflict he has created, that he IS, to all intents and purposes (literally), his unconsciousness.